{"id":1982,"date":"2019-02-28T23:34:41","date_gmt":"2019-03-01T04:34:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/?page_id=1982"},"modified":"2020-07-20T15:00:46","modified_gmt":"2020-07-20T19:00:46","slug":"organising-dindisc","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/organising-dindisc\/","title":{"rendered":"organising DinDisc"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Following the dissolution of Strontium 90, Howlett focused on producing while Carol Wilson pursued music industry ambitions that might not include Virgin. In an email, she recalled to me:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I had taken Virgin Music Publishers to the point where it took turns at nos. 1,2, and 3, with CBS (now Sony) and Warner Brothers, as the top three UK publishing companies according to the Music Week quarterly chart, which was based on chart positions. And at that time our chart positions were all down to my signings of artistes outside Virgin. \u00a0I could not see any further to go in publishing so came up with the idea of starting a label.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Howlett elaborated:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>So around that time, I&#8217;m having a little bit of success [recording Virgin acts like the Skids and Penetration], and Carol&#8217;s had \u2014 the Police start to take off by \u201879, and she&#8217;s thinking she wants more. She&#8217;s just got a dowry, and she&#8217;s trying to get Branson to give her equity, and he&#8217;s being tough about it. So she said to me, \u201cLet&#8217;s form a label. Richard isn&#8217;t giving me enough backing on this, in spite of having earned him all that money.\u201d And so we were going to form a label. We were quite a way down the road. I was going to be the house producer, and she was going to manage it and be A&amp;R and the rest.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In <a href=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/publication\/277844608_The_record_producer_as_nexus_creative_inspiration_technology_and_the_recording_industry\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">his dissertation for a PhD in record production at the University of Glamorgan<\/a>, Howlett (2009: 37) continues his account how DinDisc Records took shape within the Virgin group:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Upon hearing that Carol was intending to leave to start the DinDisc label, Richard Branson, principal owner and chief executive of Virgin, offered to fund the label and keep it within the corporate embrace of the Virgin structure. The appeal of this arrangement was considerable. The initial funding, including staff wages, office overheads, recording costs, promotional and distribution mechanisms for a new record company can be daunting. In the end, Carol became the chief executive of the company and I was engaged as an independent producer on an ad hoc basis. The advantage for me was that I could continue to work for other record companies as well, thereby expanding my employment potential, and still receive royalty payments for my production work with DinDisc (Howlett 2009: 37).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Branson and Wilson also established a parallel publishing unit, DinSong Publishing, to recapture the dual recording\/publishing revenue formula that she oversaw at Virgin. A September 1, 1979 piece in UK trade magazine <i>Music Week<\/i> announced Wilson\u2019s ventures:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Virgin has formed Dindisc [sic] and Dinsong [sic] as a means of continuing the expansion of the company\u2019s interests without overloading the existing companies \u2026 The new companies have arisen from Virgin\u2019s music publishing operation and Carol Wilson \u2014 head of Virgin Music \u2014 is managing director. She heads an executive staff of four which comprises Nicki Davies \u2014 previously London promotions manager Island Records \u2014 as marketing manager, Donna Thompson \u2014 from Virgin Music \u2014 as promotions manager, Dave Fudger \u2014 also from Virgin Music \u2014 as A&amp;R manager, and Eugene Manzi \u2014 previously of Berserkely \u2014 as press officer. Nick Garnett who was professional manager at Virgin Music becomes general manager of the new publishing company Dinsong, while Rob Gold, former managing director of Logo Music, will replace Carol Wilson as managing director of Virgin Music \u2026 Retail outlets in the UK will be serviced by the Virgin salesforce and distribution is through CBS. Dindisc in the US will be handled by Virgin\u2019s Independent operation and worldwide by Virgin\u2019s licensees \u2026 \u00a0[source: quote in Jones 2015]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Virgin set up DinDisc and DinSong in their own London offices at 61-63 Portobello Road. With Wilson, Davies and Thompson at DinDisc\u2019s helm, the label had a distinctly female leadership that broke with the laddish hippie culture at Virgin epitomized by their 1970s label artwork depicting a nude adolescent girl.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/files\/2019\/02\/terrysouthernvirgin.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-1983 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/files\/2019\/02\/terrysouthernvirgin.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1023\" height=\"739\" srcset=\"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/files\/2019\/02\/terrysouthernvirgin.jpg 1023w, https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/files\/2019\/02\/terrysouthernvirgin-300x217.jpg 300w, https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/files\/2019\/02\/terrysouthernvirgin-768x555.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1023px) 100vw, 1023px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Still, the degrees of separation from Virgin shouldn\u2019t be overstated. In reality, DinDisc Records constituted a \u201cboutique\u201d or \u201cfaux-indie\u201d record label, depending on how one views Virgin\u2019s relationship to the punk and new wave scenes it tapped into. In the day-to-day business, DinDisc engaged other units of the Virgin group for sales, distribution, international, and administrative support (like accounting); to coordinate scheduling of press junkets, label parties, and other promotional events; for use of Virgin\u2019s recording studios; and to book its artists gigs at Virgin\u2019s own London nightclub, the Venue. (Such operational costs would conveniently generate further income for Virgin at recording artists\u2019 expense, as Branson notes in his autobiography.) Virgin archivist Mike Jones observes that the assignment of catalog numbers to DinDisc albums and singles indicates its coordination with the parent label<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>to prevent a wave of new product from swamping the Virgin label proper. It is probable that all of the [initial 1979 DinDisc] singles were originally allocated VS 100 series catalogue numbers. Evidence? Well, perhaps not evidence, as such, but it is slightly suspicious that between August 1979 and the end of the year there are seven DinDisc releases either released or advised and six unused catalogue numbers in the VS 100 sequence? [Jones 2015]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Beyond its origins within Branson\u2019s empire, DinDisc\u2019s heyday and ultimate demise further highlight its ambiguous relationship with Virgin. In retrospective accounts (e.g., Southern 1996), not only do Branson and Draper take collective credit for artists like OMD that Wilson signed to DinDisc, but often DinDisc artists themselves vascillate in describing themselves as \u201cDinDisc\u201d or \u201cVirgin\u201d acts. This is more than just symbolism; when DinDisc eventually folded in 1982, contracts for its recording artists, most notably OMD and Martha and the Muffins, were rolled into the Virgin label, underscoring the significant degree of legal and organizational integration between the two units.<\/p>\n<p>Ultimately, DinDisc\u2019s chief source of independence from Virgin rested upon its ability to sign, market, and package recording artists as Wilson and her staff saw fit. It\u2019s to this issue I now turn.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/din-1-din-2-din-3-the-revillos-omd-peter-saville-duggie-campbell\/\">Next: DIN 1, DIN 2, DIN 3: the Revillos, OMD, Peter Saville, Duggie Campbell.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><b>DINDISC OFFICE DIRECTORY:<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/2019\/03\/01\/the-story-of-dindisc-records\/\">1. in the beginning: Virgin Music and Carol Wilson<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/wilsons-dowry-sting-and-strontium-90\/\">2. \u201cWilson\u2019s dowry\u201d: Sting and Strontium 90<\/a><br \/>\n3. organising DinDisc<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/din-1-din-2-din-3-the-revillos-omd-peter-saville-duggie-campbell\/\">4. DIN 1, DIN 2, DIN 3: the Revillos, OMD, Peter Saville, Duggie Campbell<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/a-bunch-of-canadians-from-the-colonies-martha-and-the-muffins-martha-ladly-nash-the-slash\/\">5. \u201ca bunch of Canadians from the colonies\u201d: Martha and the Muffins, Martha Ladly, Nash the Slash<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/the-monochrome-set-dedringer-modern-eon-hot-gossip\/\">6. the Monochrome Set, Dedringer, Modern Eon, Hot Gossip<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/the-end-of-dindisc\/\">7. the end of DinDisc<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Following the dissolution of Strontium 90, Howlett focused on producing while Carol Wilson pursued music industry ambitions that might not include Virgin. In an email, she recalled to me: I had taken Virgin Music Publishers to the point where it took turns at nos. 1,2, and 3, with CBS (now Sony) and Warner Brothers, as the top three UK publishing companies according to the Music Week quarterly chart, which was based on chart positions. And at that time our chart positions were all down to my signings of artistes outside Virgin. \u00a0I could not see any further to go in publishing so came up with the idea of starting a label. Howlett elaborated: So around that time, I&#8217;m having a little bit of success [recording Virgin acts like the Skids and Penetration], and Carol&#8217;s had \u2014 the Police start to take off by \u201879, and she&#8217;s thinking she wants more. She&#8217;s just got a dowry, and she&#8217;s trying to get Branson to give her equity, and he&#8217;s being tough about it. So she said to me, \u201cLet&#8217;s form a label. Richard isn&#8217;t giving me enough backing on this, in spite of having earned him all that money.\u201d And so we [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":308,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-1982","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1982","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/308"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1982"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1982\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2487,"href":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/1982\/revisions\/2487"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/musicalurbanism\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1982"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}