{"id":149,"date":"2014-04-28T23:31:20","date_gmt":"2014-04-29T03:31:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/hvagriculture\/?p=149"},"modified":"2014-04-28T23:31:20","modified_gmt":"2014-04-29T03:31:20","slug":"conversation-with-jessica-applestone-and-don-lewis","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/hvagriculture\/2014\/04\/28\/conversation-with-jessica-applestone-and-don-lewis\/","title":{"rendered":"conversation with Jessica Applestone and Don Lewis"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Two advocates for building local food systems talked to our class: Jessica Applestone (co-founder of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fleishers.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Fleisher&#8217;s Grass-Fed &amp; Organic Meats<\/a>) and Don Lewis (baker\/miller at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wildhivefarm.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Wild Hive Farm<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Local food systems in the Hudson Valley\" width=\"604\" height=\"340\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/xzh53_y3S6Y?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Some references in this conversation:<br \/>\n01:42 how Jessica Applestone and her husband Joshua started Fleisher&#8217;s<br \/>\n02:12 the state of the Hudson Valley&#8217;s food system 10 years ago<br \/>\n03:53 most chefs and butchers don&#8217;t know how to cut meat<br \/>\n04:45 the value of marketing and publicity in managing farm business<br \/>\n05:36 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ciachef.edu\/thomas-schneller\/\" target=\"_blank\">Tom Schneller<\/a> of Culinary Institute of America and Schneller&#8217;s Meats (Kingston, NY)<br \/>\n05:48 Fleisher&#8217;s butcher school and apprentice system<br \/>\n07:28 influence of Michael Pollan&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/michaelpollan.com\/articles-archive\/power-steer\/\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;Power Steer&#8221;<\/a> (2002)<br \/>\n08:29 why Fleisher&#8217;s located in Kingston, NY<br \/>\n10:15 why Fleisher&#8217;s got out of wholesale sales to restaurants<br \/>\n11:42 <a href=\"http:\/\/flyingpigsfarm.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Flying Pig Farm<\/a> (Shusah, NY)<br \/>\n12:00 influence of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.grownyc.org\/greenmarket\/manhattan-union-square\" target=\"_blank\">Union Square Greenmarket<\/a><br \/>\n13:02 starting up an organic slaughterhouse, Applestone Meat Company (Accord, NY)<br \/>\n15:37 charcuterie and value-added meat products<br \/>\n18:18 opening a 2nd Fleisher&#8217;s butcher shop in Park Slope, Brooklyn<br \/>\n20:05 how Don Lewis started <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wildhivefarm.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Wild Hive Farm<\/a><br \/>\n21:03 Union Square Greenmarket&#8217;s influence on his baking business<br \/>\n22:03 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.breadalone.com\/how-we-started\" target=\"_blank\">Daniel Leader (Bread Alone)<\/a> and rustic European baking<br \/>\n22:45 how Wild Hive began using Hudson Valley-grown grain<br \/>\n23:50 Hudson Valley&#8217;s history as &#8220;breadbasket&#8221; of United States<br \/>\n24:59 stone-milled flour vs. roller-milled flour<br \/>\n29:00 politics of accessibility of local foods in the food system<br \/>\n29:28 &#8220;put food by\/up&#8221;<br \/>\n33:15 evolution of consumer interest in goods baked with local flour<br \/>\n36:03 selling to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.eataly.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Eataly New York<\/a> (Mario Batali, Lydia and Joe Bastianich, Oscar Farineti)<br \/>\n38:57 expanding acreage for Hudson Valley grains<br \/>\n40:22 local grain system &#8220;removed from commodity structure&#8221;<br \/>\n41:29 supplying Eataly Chicago<br \/>\n43:22 promoting regional grain-based food systems elsewhere<br \/>\n45:23 the operation at Wild Hive Farm in Clinton Corners<br \/>\n46:13 organizing growers down the food-system value chain<br \/>\n47:40 what is a steer? where does veal come from?<br \/>\n52:09 what gets valued (and what doesn&#8217;t) in the food system<br \/>\n53:33 how old are other meat animals when they&#8217;re slaughtered?<br \/>\n55:56 can organic food become less expensive?<br \/>\n59:59 heritage grains and regional grain variety<br \/>\n1:05:53 how the Hudson Valley contributes to their operations<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Two advocates for building local food systems talked to our class: Jessica Applestone (co-founder of Fleisher&#8217;s Grass-Fed &amp; Organic Meats) and Don Lewis (baker\/miller at Wild Hive Farm). Some references in this conversation: 01:42 how Jessica Applestone and her husband Joshua started Fleisher&#8217;s 02:12 the state of the Hudson Valley&#8217;s food system 10 years ago &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/hvagriculture\/2014\/04\/28\/conversation-with-jessica-applestone-and-don-lewis\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">conversation with Jessica Applestone and Don Lewis<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":308,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[46474],"tags":[63812,13698,722,57562,63833,63827],"class_list":["post-149","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-interviews","tag-es291","tag-grain","tag-hudson-valley","tag-local-food","tag-meat","tag-value-added"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/hvagriculture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/149","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/hvagriculture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/hvagriculture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/hvagriculture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/308"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/hvagriculture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=149"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/hvagriculture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/149\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":150,"href":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/hvagriculture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/149\/revisions\/150"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/hvagriculture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=149"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/hvagriculture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=149"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pages.vassar.edu\/hvagriculture\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=149"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}